When Goldman Sachs pur chased Spear, Leeds & Kellogg last year it acquired more than its trading prowess. It also snagged some popular direct access technology. Spear's REDIPlus is used by the small broker dealer customers of Spear's clearing division to access news and quotes, track positions and route orders to the listed and Nasdaq markets. It is being revamped to appeal to Goldman's institutional clients. Neil DeSena, managing director of Spear, Leeds' REDIProducts division and Duncan Niederauer, a Goldman managing director now working in the SLK division, discussed the initiative with Traders Magazine's Peter Chapman.
Traders: Why is a top block trading house like Goldman helping its customers bypass, in many cases, its own trading desks?
Niederauer: It's unrealistic for firms like Goldman to expect clients to do business with us only in a high-touch, high-cost, high-service fashion. In other words, in an environment where sales traders interact with Nasdaq market makers and block traders, all for five cents to six cents per share.
Traders: The buyside wants more choices?
Niederauer: Over time, clients have directed some of their business through direct access pipes to the NYSE; some goes through ECNs. They've figured out ways to divide up their volume. They will tend to execute it at many different price points in many different ways – from requiring really high-touch services to low touch.
So we thought it a pretty powerful combination to offer our buyside clients a best of breed suite of execution services. We have high-touch complicated products that require capital commitment as well as high-speed, very efficient direct access to the New York Stock Exchange.
Traders: And that's REDIPlus?
DeSena: REDIPlus gives institutions direct electronic access to the New York and the Nasdaq markets. It also lets them route their orders to any upstairs trading department of their choice. That includes the desks of Goldman Sachs and Spear, Leeds as well as of any broker dealer willing to connect to REDINet.
Traders: REDINet?
DeSena: REDINet is the order routing network within REDIPlus. The REDIPlus system has, of course, always incorporated an order routing network. But for this initiative we've broken it out and labeled it REDINet. REDIPlus is the front-end. REDINet is the network. For those who would rather connect to REDINet through their own order management systems, we offer a FIX API and a proprietary FIX engine. We believe some customers will want to connect their OMSs directly into REDINet rather than use REDIPlus.
Traders: Which systems can they access at the New York?
DeSena: Institutional Xpress, Direct+, the BBSS, and SuperDOT. A lot of this will be [matrix] table-driven. For example, an order of 10,000 shares or less might go to SuperDOT while a large order for, say IBM, would go to a particular floor broker. The trader or the manager will pre-program the destination.
Traders: How about NYFIX, the competition to BBSS?
DeSena: We're thinking about it. We actually have a link into NYFIX, but we haven't instituted it. If one of my customers says he wants a link to NYFIX, we'll go live with it.
Traders: Will REDIPlus route to every floor broker on the BBSS?
DeSena: No. We'll either provide brokers or let institutions tell us which brokers they want on the network.
Traders: How much business are you currently doing on Institutional Xpress and Direct+?
DeSena: Well, Institutional Xpress hasn't really caught on yet, but we handle about 24 percent of the share volume done on Direct+. Keep in mind Spear Leeds accounts for 15 percent of the share volume of DOT. We've been No. 1 for the last five or six years. But we think we can grow Direct+ higher and see no reason why we shouldn't be 24 percent of Xpress either.
Traders: How about Nasdaq? Does REDIPlus offer an institution smart' routing within Nasdaq?
DeSena: It sends the order to our ECN, REDIBook, which scans the market for the best execution.
Traders: Any unfilled portion resides on REDIBook?
DeSena: That's correct.
Traders: Your multi-broker strategy means you will route your customers' orders to your competitors?
Niederauer: That's right.
Traders: Why in the world would you help your competitors take in order flow?
Niederauer: A large institution is unlikely to do 100 percent of its business with Goldman or Spear Leeds. We will get a share, but if we want to be important to that customer, we need to be the enabler that lets them get to their counterparties. They're going there anyway.
Traders: You said that you see your multi-broker initiative as beneficial to the sellside as it is to the buyside. Why?
Niederauer: It's a convenient way for them to get business from their clients.
Traders: I understand there is some frustration on the part of the sellside in dealing with the OMS vendors too.
Niederauer: Yes. The majority of OMS vendors are small firms with limited experience in this area. They end up outsourcing the network anyway. That is not the case here. This is a huge network. There is a lot of expertise in this space. So, if you are a sellside firm frustrated by how hard it is to get orders from your client because so many of the OMS vendors aren't terribly good at it, well here is somebody who will enable that connectivity that is pretty darn good at it.
Traders: Any conflict of interest here? They are your competitors.
Niederauer: No. We are strictly the network provider. We are not acting as broker. We are an enabler, not a competitor, in this scenario.
Traders: The sellside would connect directly to REDINet?
DeSena: That's right. And the buyside would use REDIPlus or their order management system.
Traders: Goldman owns 20 percent of OMS vendor Eze Castle.
DeSena: They can use any OMS. We connect to all of them.
Traders: Which side will you charge?
DeSena: I'm not sure. We might charge both sides. We might charge only one side.
Traders: How far along are you with the multi-broker initiative?
DeSena: We've just begun. The two destinations are Goldman and Spear, Leeds. But because we don't have this in yet we are allowing our customers to do step-outs. The customer can give the trade up to somebody else. They route the order to us, but ask us to pay someone else. It doesn't accomplish the same thing as sending the order to a sales trader, but it shows our good faith. We are saying, You don't have to do all of your business with us. We are going to give you some options.'
Traders: Thank you.